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BERT H.

22102210 Member Posts: 111 ✭✭✭
edited January 2006 in Ask the Experts
According to your Winchester 1894 thread http://forums.GunBroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=245213, the last Model 1894 made in that year was serial #1674.

Ironically, it's for sale on the auction side: http://www.GunBroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=338175100

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I just thought you might be interested in seeing it.
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  • 22102210 Member Posts: 111 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Would like to get DOM of '92 Winchester serial number 7762
    Thank you
    wwllvet
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  • 22102210 Member Posts: 111 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hi Bert, Me again, I have acquired another 1892 Winchester, serial number 65. What can you tell me about it?
    Also I think maybe I should get a copy of you book.

    Bob
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  • 22102210 Member Posts: 111 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bert; I have acquired another 1892 Winchester and would like to get as much information as posible on it.
    The serial number is 3895

    Thank you
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  • 22102210 Member Posts: 111 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hello Bert.
    When you have some free time
    could you date a Winchester 94-30/30
    for me --ser no. 2114763
    Thank you so much
    Ron
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  • 22102210 Member Posts: 111 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bert; I have another 1892 Winchester serial number 3895. Could you give me the manufacture date?

    Vet.
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  • 22102210 Member Posts: 111 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bert,Please read the post "Winchester 94 SRC w/ A5 Scope: factory original?" I told this guy you could help him out?
    Thanks [:)]

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  • 22102210 Member Posts: 111 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I stupidly rebarreled a possible 1890 Winchester pump many years ago
    instead of relining it. Machined down a Marlin barrel, dovetailed it,
    etc. It has a serial # 190997. Believe it had a oct. barrel before.
    A fairly beat gun but useable. Was it a 1890? Also have a '06 Winc.
    # 726201 in good shooting condition which I use continually. Are any
    barrels (original) left for the older one, even in poor condition?
    Would like to restore the old one back near original even with relining.
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  • 22102210 Member Posts: 111 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bert, got the Wollensak 4x mounted on the .32-40 (went on like it was made for it [^] ), 165grn FN mold in hand, dies and brass in route.
    Two questions:
    I've never owned or used a external adjustment scope like this, anything I need to know about adjustments, maintenance, etc?

    What is the working chamber pressure for this rifle?
    ( Still waiting on those pet loads [:)] )

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  • 22102210 Member Posts: 111 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    1873 32-20 389142B
    1885 25-20 67876
    1886 45-70 137478
    1892 38-40 95409
    1892 38-40 7580
    1892 38-20 20046
    1892 38-40 51802

    Bert,

    Could you please give me the manufacture dates on these Winchesters.

    Thank you,
    Robert Reeves
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  • 22102210 Member Posts: 111 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was told that you can appraise and verify old trapdoor rifles.
    What is involved with that.[?] I am asking because i have one that i think could be 7th calvary.
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  • 22102210 Member Posts: 111 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Whats does a Pre 64 model 94 Winchester go for these days.

    Local dealer has one that i would say is in 60%+ condition. No rust or pitting, But a lot of blue wear around the reciever. Serial dates it 1955.

    He wants around 500 for it. Is this a good deal.
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  • 22102210 Member Posts: 111 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Was nice to meet you at the gunshow---did you get a chance to go look at the Winchester pump .22 display in the back--there was also a gentleman back there who had a few Ballards & Winchester 1885's. Thought it was a great show-loved all the WW2 guns.
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  • 22102210 Member Posts: 111 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It was my extreme pleasure to meet Bert at the Puyallup WA Gun Show this past week end.

    He is like talking to a live Winchester encyclopedia. I learned more in the brief time we had together about 1885's than I have in my entire life. What a fine gentleman, and so willing to share his hard earned knowledge with others.

    My hat is off to him and the other experts who contribute to this terrific site. I learn something every time I log on to it.

    Keep up the great work!!!
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  • 22102210 Member Posts: 111 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Do you know where I can get some nice photo's of the winchester double set triggers as found on the early model 94's. I have a 1894 rifle in 32-40, full octagon barrel with a broken set trigger. The serial number on the gun is 287X. I have all the set trigger minus the broken arch. I think I can make the needed part but need a photo to compare against. I think this rifle will be a hoot to shoot. Thank you for any help you may be able to provide. My email is, barthels2@msn.com
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  • 22102210 Member Posts: 111 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What do you think of this?

    http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=345336

    Edited to add link. (DUH)
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  • 22102210 Member Posts: 111 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If the info in this auction is true, then why is this gun not in a museum somewhere?
    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=82828130
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  • 22102210 Member Posts: 111 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    At what point in your life did you decide to collect and research Winchesters. Also, what factor influenced you to do it?
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  • 22102210 Member Posts: 111 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bert,

    Sorry I couldn't get over to your table at the Gun Show due to a last hour flurry of business.

    Looking forward to getting a copy of your Winchester book with great anticipation.
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  • 22102210 Member Posts: 111 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    thanks for the info, will not bother you again. eastbank
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  • 22102210 Member Posts: 111 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bert, please send me info to order ypur book on winchesters.
    orobelle at aol.com
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  • 22102210 Member Posts: 111 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Winchester Mod. 94 Serial no. 875182. 26" round barrel, Straight grip, with shotgun style butt plate. Info needed. DOB etc. Thanks.
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  • 22102210 Member Posts: 111 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hi Bert. I posted some pictures of Henry Rifles awhile ago, and I just wanted to let you know that I sold one of them. I haven't pursued anything on the Navy Colts with consecutive serial numbers yet. Get too busy and time just slips by. I think I'm interested in starting to part with some of my collection. I have quite a few Winchesters and many Army and Navy Colts. Any info you could give me would be very much appreciated.
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  • 22102210 Member Posts: 111 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bert,can you Please give me the DOB of a Winchester Mod. 88 .308 cal.with Clover Leaf Tang, Ser #45879.
    Thank You
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  • 22102210 Member Posts: 111 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    After seen yor sig. I was wondering if you knew wow I can get a ballard or a High Wall for a cheeper price? I can't aford an original, or a reproduction NIB. Can I build one for less money?
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  • 22102210 Member Posts: 111 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bert; Question regaurding Winchester 1892 serial # 23701. Would appreciate any info you can provide.

    Vet.
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  • 22102210 Member Posts: 111 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What can you tell me about the three Winchesters listed here?

    Model 1892 in .38 WCF S/N 7580

    Model 1892 in .38 WCF S/N 51802

    Model 97 in 12 ga. S/N E 737190

    any info will be greatly appreciated.

    Not as Lean, Not as Mean, but still a MARINE.

    For GOD and COUNTRY

    Vet
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  • 22102210 Member Posts: 111 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What is a good shape 30" full choke pre 64 model 37 winchester
    12 guage worth?





    bert im guessing you are awinchester man.
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  • only winchestersonly winchesters Member Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hello 2210: I'm not Bert, but I know a little about Winchester shotguns.
    Is the release lever a "wire loop" otherwise known as the "pig tail lever", or a solid metal piece?
    Is the word WINCHESTER stamped on the bottom of the receiver?
    Is the forearm a blunt "Bull Nose" or is there a slight taper upward starting about 1 1/2 inches back?
    Has the butt stock been cutt, or a recoil pad added?
    If the butt stock still has the black butt plate, does it have Winchester Repeating Arms around a circle in the center? Or does it just have the word "Winchester" spelled out? If it is this style of butt plate are the screws holding it onto the but slotted head screws or phillips head screws?

    The answers to these questions can period date your gun, and can mean more or less in value?

    Regards Dave
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  • tlentlen Member Posts: 168 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you want to post a question for a specific person why don't you just send them an email and be done with it.
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  • Bert H.Bert H. Member Posts: 11,281 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 2210
    What is a good shape 30" full choke pre 64 model 37 winchester
    12 guage worth?





    bert im guessing you are awinchester man.


    About $100, and yes, I am a Winchester man[^]. For what it is worth, all Model 37s are pre-64. Regardless of when it was made, values are fairly consistent for a 12 gauge Model 37.

    WACA Historian & Life Member

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  • merrbarbmerrbarb Member Posts: 138 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    2210: "Only Winchesters" raises good points regarding condition and variations that will impact on value. Gun shows here in Pennsylvania regularly show Model 37s and they jump off the tables. The shotgun has popularity because it was well made (Winchester quality), its price range that puts it in the purview of modest collections, and over 1,000,000 were produced. No serial numbers were put on the firearm. ?s to price, a 12 ga. went at auction two weeks ago for $85. No blueing on the receiver but in otherwise shootable condition. Very good plus condition regularly are offered AND sold for $175 to $300, depending on gauge (28 ga. excluded). Higher priced models have the Winchester slanted, red enamel filled, inscription on the bottom of the receiver. Do not confuse with the model 37A as that is an entirely different firearm.
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  • only winchestersonly winchesters Member Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hello everyone: Well if this "good shape" Md 37 happens to have a pig tail lever, it should also be a "red letter" gun, it would also be a "first year" gun at $100 it would be a steal! More like $175-$250. But until 2210 answers my questions, it is very hard to establish a price, since all Md 37s aren't equal. As with most Winchesters vintage counts.

    Regards Dave
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  • XracerXracer Member Posts: 1,990 ✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by tlen
    If you want to post a question for a specific person why don't you just send them an email and be done with it.


    I, for one, learn a lot from questions posted directly to our "acknowledged experts" here on the board.

    Believe me, if I had a question about Winchesters, I'd ask Bert or Onlywinchesters about it here.....and hope others would also learn from their answers.
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